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Bear with me here. I had a C-section with 10 puppies interrupt my afternoon, so now I'm too tired to be bothered with the stress of cutting out the trim for John's new Waffenrok. (I have 1 yd - it should be JUST enough = how to summon the Gods of Chaos and ensure that I screw it up, as I can't currently get more).

Some of you are on various filters, so some of this will be kind of a repeat, though in more general terms.

In terms of what makes the game "fun" for you in the society:

I've held forth before on my opinion that people tend to play on various "levels." Some people operate primarily at the Society level (On the Grand Council, Mayor of Pennsic, etc). Others at the Kingdom level (Curia, many Peers, Crown and coeteries thereof). Others operate at the Regional level (Regional officers, those in a Regional fighting unit, etc). The rest more at a local level. Some people are also more adept at moving in between.

So in general terms, people operating at the Kingdom level feel pretty tied into the Kingdom. But what about the rest? What, specifically, makes people at the Regional level or below feel like part of the "magic?" (and by below, I don't really mean to imply anything other than that's how the tree looks in my head. I suppose I could have gone right-to-left, but my brain is more vertically oriented). Royal visits? Retaining? Helping your local group host Crown, or Twelfth Night? Getting awards and seeing other people in the local area get awards? Fighting under the Midrealm banner?

What interferes with feeling part of the Kingdom? Do you get aggravated when you feel your area is neglected? When nobody local has gotten recognized, even though YOU feel they deserve it? Does fighting under a Baronial or Shire banner make you feel more part of the Barony, at the expense of feeling like part of the Region of Kingdom? Do household loyalties interefere? What if the Household is multi-Kingdom?

Those of you who primarily operate on a Kingdom level, do you feel more loyalty to the Kingdom than before you "peeked behind the curtain?" Less? Do Household ties or local pressures make you feel like you're between a rock and a hard place? Do people who have claims on you expect you do favor them specifically, and do you find that a stressful situation if it's perhaps in contrast with what might be better for the Kingdom as a whole? Do the people locally feel as strongly tied to the Kingdom as you do? Would you know if they didn't?

Speak forth and share your opinions. I know y'all have got 'em.

ETA - This post is wide open for a reason. ;-) I'm interested in opinions even of people I don't know. Those in areas that seem to be less tied to their Kingdoms in some ways - Tir Mara, the proposed An Tir Principality, Norther Atlanita, New Zealand in general - and those that ARE the epicenter of their kingdom. As well as opinions from older Kingdoms about WHY they are now Kingdoms, whether that process was smooth or not.

Which brings up another question - Is it the responsibility of the Crown and Kingdom to make a concerted effort to look for signs of "marginalization" and attempt to correct it? The responsibility of those who feel marginalized to FIND ways to be part of the Kingdom? Or just a sign that things have changed and it might be time to re-evaluate the entire relationship?

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Date: 2010-06-10 07:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] landverhuizer.livejournal.com
Well, I have found Barony style play to be somewhat more independent feeling from Kingdom than Shire play. I did find that on moving to a Shire that the near complete lack of courts being held had impacted the style of play to a great degree, yet it also sorta gave a higher degree of dependence on Kingdom for the full SCA experience. I know people who pretty much skip shire level play all together and just play at principality and Kingdom.

The loyalty thing is a tough one to answer, when I left there was still a fair bit of "loyalty", as far as I could tell, to Kingdom though what has helped is that the royalty were making more frequent trips into the region (once, and occasionally, twice a year but to us that is frequent). Region pride was, and I imagine still is, quite strong though but this would likely never occur without it's major-ish events and it's army to stand behind... as the crown principality grows with the changes of being able to have a name and heraldry, I suspect it will grow and once it becomes a full principality, I could only guess that it could grow stronger (just guessing from the current/past trends).

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